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Monday, August 31, 2009

Forward: Allah or Jesus

The Lubbock, TX forward 2 posts earlier reminded me of this and a few other forwards I've received over the years.

Here is one of the first of the Islam/terrorism emails I received as a result of 9/11, Iraq and other events of that time:


Allah or Jesus? By Rick Mattes Apr 6, 2004

Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant, and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their belief systems.

I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video.

After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.
When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?"

There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!"

I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?"

The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes."

I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven!"

The Imam was speechless.

I continued, "I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask you one more question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to Heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be there, too?"

You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.

Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslim's beliefs.

I think everyone in the U.S. should be required to read this, but with the liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized. Please pass this on to all your e-mail contacts.

This is a true story and the author, Rick Mattes, is a well-known leader in prison ministry.


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snopes:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp


and a guy who talked to Mathes/Mattes (other websites listed as well):
http://www.travisswicegood.com/index.php/2004/12/29/allah_or_jesus_a_response


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I received this around 2003 (?) I think and responded to this one by simply linking to and copying and posting info from snopes. Why didn't I say that that guy is supposed to be Christian, as he calls Jesus his, so why does he have a problem with being his friend? We are supposed to love our enemies and I'm guessing that guy considers Muslims enemies.

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The "friend" thing was offensive to me as a Christian. I am to love everyone and teach the truth. It is not my job to vilify and slander. It is insulting to me and to the Bible as well to frame the debate like this email- they want to kill you, follow Jesus instead. Besides this not being truthful, it belittles Christianity- it has so much more to offer.

Due to the liberal use of the word "liberal," I'm guessing this was taken from a conservative publication for mass distribution and immortalization online. I'm happy to say I haven't seen it again since that first time I saw it in my inbox.

It is the political debate that focuses on violence in Islam. Sometimes this, as well as other political tints, sneaks into the pulpit. Setting aside the question of the validity of the claim about the violence of Islam, the question of who wants to kill us shouldn't really matter to the Christian anyway (Matt 10:28). For me to believe a Christian presentation on Islam is not political, I'd need to see a comparison of beliefs that shows concern and respect for souls rather than an Islam=violence vs Christianity=peace type of deal that is typical. Political Islam that terrorists practice has a political agenda and so do Christians who use political Islam as a centerpiece for arguments.

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