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Thursday, February 11, 2010

Tea Party, but not the fun kind.

We will occasionally have a tea party with the kids and everyone loves those, but that's not what I'm talking about, here...


From Tea Party Nation website:

Who are we? Our members have joined us from all over the nation, from every state and even from foreign countries!

Tea Party Nation (or TPN) is a user-driven group of like-minded people who desire our God given Individual Freedoms which were written out by the Founding Fathers. We believe in Limited Government, Free Speech, the 2nd Amendment, our Military, Secure Borders and our Country!

Please join us, make and form strong bonds, network, and make plans for action. We are doing what we could not do alone, to preserve that which we value.

http://www.teapartynation.com/



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What is the tea party movement? It seems to be a far right fiscal conservative movement given the name and fact that it started around tax time, but what is the goal? Are they a real revolution or lunatic fringe?

It seems to want to remain leaderless and not affiliated with a party, but I don’t think either of those are a success.


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Some issues, comments, questions about the movement:

Why do the tea party thing when you’ve got Steinhouser’s FreedomWorks whose goal is ‘Lower Taxes, Less Government, More Freedom’ ? Is it not anti-Obama enough for them? In an interview, the representative from that group seemed far more reasonable than what I've heard from the tea party elites and supporters.

Once it went national, doesn’t that mean it isn’t grass-roots?

Tea Party Nation is for profit

Tickets are $549 and $349- lobster and steak on the menu
(kind of funny since there was some Obama bashing at this gathering and during the campaign, some Republicans said Michelle had room service deliver lobster and caviar for over $500- NY Post retracted the story after it was found to be totally false.)

Said to have no leader/head; it’s about everyone- Judson Phillips seems be, though. It’s not like everyone just sent out a text message and met all together.

“Not having a leader”- is it populist or is it just an easy way out when you invite people and they say something (crazy) that’s either not in the scope of the event or that could hurt momentum or seriously bigoted that makes all look bad

They claim that their voice is not being heard and the democracy is not working. I’d give them that if the popular vote didn’t match the electoral college result. I think we all feel that way. I think my post about Sabato’s book provides better suggestions (Sabato’s suggestions, not mine). The tea partiers are all about getting a conservative in the White House; Sabato outlines some real fundamental changes.


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Here are some interesting (as in offensive) points I heard in reports about this tea party convention:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/05/tea.party.convention/index.html


Tom Tancredo said and Judson Phillips agrees:
"people who could not even spell the word 'vote', or say it in English, put a committed socialist ideologue in the White House.

(also mentioned literacy tests- possibly in a Spanish accent (???)- which incidentally were once used to keep blacks from voting… he claims to have meant more of a civics literacy test...hmm)

In another bit of irony- Sarah Palin wrote notes on her hand. She poked fun of Obama’s teleprompter during the campaign.

Phillips added that he thinks "Tancredo doesn't feel like a lot of people who supported Barack Obama understand the basics of this country."
This (condescendingly) echoes exactly what a McCain supporter (equally condescendingly) emailed me when I responded (replied all) to a ‘don’t vote for Obama unless you hate America, freedom and don’t want planet Earth to implode!’- type email I got during the campaign. If you only knew or were educated, then you wouldn’t vote for him- as though I didn’t do research or wasn’t educated.

I looked at that email again and had forgotten someone I am related to told me to wake up and stop drinking the Kool Aid- Obama’s a Muslim, not born in this country, a socialist, friend of terrorists, and a few other myths. I’m crazy for not believing already debunked myths!

Anyway…

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Tancerdo also talked about "Islamification" and the "cult of multiculturalism"

I heard this but have yet to get a reference to see what the deal was. I still don’t see what is so evil about respecting other cultures. And sorry, the US is not being “Islamified.” Whatever that means.

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Joseph Farah of WorldNetDaily was a speaker at the convention and spent a quarter of his speech on birther “questions” (Still, people? Really?) This kind of thing delegitimizes the movement IMO by promoting these urban legends, previously debunked myths and such.

http://washingtonindependent.com/75949/birther-speaker-takes-heat-at-tea-party-convention

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Objectionable placards- don’t know that it needs much comment…
On the Diane Rehm Show about the Tea Party movement, Phillips said he didn’t see anything offensive except from one Democrat.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/16/10-most-offensive-tea-par_n_187554.html


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Friday's planned sessions at the Convention featured such titles as "Defeating Liberalism Via the Primary Process" and "Why Christians Must Engage."

Good title in the latter, but I can only suspect that it is about getting conservatives elected, not about actually governing in a Godly manner or behaving in a Godly manner toward the President and Democrats as well as those we agree with.

A Saturday Session: Speaker, ANA PUIG-“Correlations between the current Administration and Marxist Dictators of Latin America”

I’m only going to say: ??????


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Sites weighing in on the Tea Party Movement:

http://wamu.org/programs/dr/10/02/09.php

Great points are made and Diane Rehm tames unruly guests in her tea party feature. One guest points out similar movements throughout history. Another interesting point is made about Republican (and Focus on the Family) control Colorado Springs

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123221091&ft=1&f=1014


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/06/sarah-palin-goes-obama-tea-party-convention/




Tea Party the movie was featured at the convention:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHJ6dSyohCc

Polls about how people feel about the tea party movement:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-zogby/boiling-tea_b_451306.html

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